NSW Visitation hours / school

[sammy01]

Actually, I'm pro - equality. Race gender age ability / disability. EQUALITY...

And the law agrees with me. You, however have been expressing gender discrimination in your commentary. You are sexist.

So find me anything that proves that I am pro-dads and that dad's can do no wrong? go on dare ya. I think the fact is many of the child related threads here tend do be from dad's desperate to see their kids and i have given advice to apply to court because the courts recognise the right for children to have "a meaningful relationship with both parents" and the family law act recognises that "shared parental responsibility". I understand this to mean gender equality. Mum doesn't know better than dad and dad doesn't know better than mum. But I really don't think you'll find anything where I've suggested any gender discrimination.

So what else does the law say? because this is a law forum - "Best interest of the child is paramount". Dad gets a tick from me. Kid was sick he did what was in the best interest of the child.
Did dad breach the orders? Yes. Did dad have a reasonable excuse? Yes. So no problems.

I've supported my advice with a reputable source. I'm not just making this stuff up and a few other punters here agree with me.

Now go make a nice cuppa tea, sit down and read the whole thing again and realise that your personal attacks on me are unwarrnated, an apology is deserved and maybe, just maybe if you take my nice advice about relaxing a bit things might go a little bit more smoothly for you, your hair won't go grey and you won't die pre-maturely due to the un-neccesary stress you're causing by making this ant hill a mountain.

 

[Christina91b]

Prove you're pro-dad? Um have I once read that you've said mum's done a great job? Mum made a great decision? Mum gets a tick from me? Haha, nope. I'm not anti-dads either, my husband is an amazing father. I judge people based on their actions and how they treat others. You're on here to defend dad's because I dunno, you've had a s**t experience. But as I said before - not everyone is like your ex. She's probably not even as bad as you make out either. Anyways, got my answer. Can stop wasting my time now. Take care.

 

[Christina91b]

And thankyou to the others who responded more reasonably with their answers as opposed to the "You're gonna lose in court" guy lol. Appreciated.

 

[Tremaine]

If you think dad would do this to see his kid more, and you want to prevent the kid from missing school, why don’t you just give dad an extra night or two in the care schedule? Orders are only applicable if parents can’t agree, you know.

 

[Christina91b]

If you think dad would do this to see his kid more, and you want to prevent the kid from missing school, why don’t you just give dad an extra night or two in the care schedule? Orders are only applicable if parents can’t agree, you know.

You're assuming I don't. I stated in earlier messages that I always give extra time - he's never satisfied with the amount because he's always fought for 50/50 care due to him thinking he would no longer have to pay child support. In the courts he went from hourly visits/no overnights to fortnightly weekends (of which in the first few years his mother was the one who cared for her during visitation) And the first thing he did after finalising the orders was called me up abusing me because he thought he'd have to pay hardly any child support and that I should sort it out asap. He's always been driven and angered by it. They have so many extra nights per year because I don't want her to miss out on birthday parties, weddings, etc But they are happy to say no to any time I have an important event even though I offer to replace it. They refused to let her go to her best friends sleepover because it was during their visitation schedule. They don't know how to sacrifice time even if it's in her best interest. I am very flexible. I do my best even by inviting them to her birthday parties I throw at home and things like trick or treating, inviting them along to school events because they can't be arsed providing the school with their email to get notified of things. I'm very friendly toward them and their relatives and avoid conflict at all times. The only arguments we have are when they ignore the orders or if they randomly instigate one. There is such thing as a dad who takes but never gives for purely selfish reasons - to be spiteful - and NOT because he wants more time with the child.

 

[sammy01]

here is a thread where I gave dad what for because he was looking for a loop hole to avoid paying child support.
WA - Correspondence with child support
Here is a post where I encouraged a woman to apply for additional child support and refuse to accept a 50/50 asset division AND advised that she should ignore the ex hubby and should not worry about a possible future inheritance that she MIGHT get as grounds for ex hubby to get more.
QLD - Fair Property Settlement with Disabled Child Involved?
I used the phrase 'you have a good case' Hmm tell me again how sexist I am?

What I find weird here is you agree with me. It was a one off. No big deal. Sure you have a very small reason to think this might become an issue in the long term... But not yet. I am also the only punter here to provide you with links to prove I'm not making this stuff up. And for all of that help.... a thank you? nope - abuse...
I wish you well.
I wish the dad here well too. Given the bashing you've given me, I can't help but think that fella needs a big hug and I'm still owed an apology

 

[Christina91b]

And ontop of that - my husband and I have been together since I were 2 months pregnant with my daughter. Her biological dad is so built up on jealousy that he tells her my husband and her 4 year old brother aren't family to her and that we'll never be a "Happy little family" so long as he's around. I'm sorry but I won't sit here being treated as if I'm in the wrong by any means.

 

[sammy01]

fact - dad kept the kid out of school because the kid said he/she was sick. Good parenting. FACT
- everything else you've written. BS / nonsense / hyperbole / hearsay / opinion / irrelevant / and completely irrelevant in family law. The fact that you never lived with dad means nothing in family law. This is a law forum. People give advice based on their understanding of the law. the legislation doesn't give too hoots about how 'jelous' the ex is or anything very much about your negative opinion of the ex.

Now as far as my ex not being all that bad? hmmm.... My 3 kids live 90% with me. I drive 3 hours sometimes to drop them off for their consent ordered visitations. Sometimes she is there sometimes she isn't.... Sometimes she isn't there because she is overseas. And what child support does she pay? rhetorical question... I'll leave you to work it out. So nope you're right she is great...

Kindly, dad kept the kid home from school once. Big deal. You're refusal to accept reasonable and intelligent advice on the matter is more a reflection on your inability to understand reality than anything else.
Let me repeat myself, stress less, the kid missed one day of school. What is the issue here? Oh I think I know... Dad made a decision. He can't do that right? U'm yes he can....

 

[GlassHalfFull]

Sammy, the only thing you're saying that I'd take issue with is the I think the court would agree that unless there's evidence to suggest otherwise, both parents should be capable of caring for a sick child, so if the child is sick at the time a handover is supposed to take place, the parent is supposed to make that sick child available for the handover, with the understanding that they would be capable of taking over the care. So in this instance, it's probably fair for Christine to expect that responsibility for the sick child be passed on that morning as per the court orders. Ultimately though, like we've said time and time again, unless it becomes a common occurrence, there's really not much point worrying about it. Save your mental energy for something important.

What I suppose is the grey area is that when a child is to be dropped off at school in the morning by one parent and picked up in the afternoon by another, when is the handover time taken to be from? Is it the morning or the afternoon? There are probably legal precedents for a question like that but I don't off the top of my head know the answer.

 

[Christina91b]

Sammy, the only thing you're saying that I'd take issue with is the I think the court would agree that unless there's evidence to suggest otherwise, both parents should be capable of caring for a sick child, so if the child is sick at the time a handover is supposed to take place, the parent is supposed to make that sick child available for the handover, with the understanding that they would be capable of taking over the care. So in this instance, it's probably fair for Christine to expect that responsibility for the sick child be passed on that morning as per the court orders. Ultimately though, like we've said time and time again, unless it becomes a common occurrence, there's really not much point worrying about it. Save your mental energy for something important.

What I suppose is the grey area is that when a child is to be dropped off at school in the morning by one parent and picked up in the afternoon by another, when is the handover time taken to be from? Is it the morning or the afternoon? There are probably legal precedents for a question like that but I don't off the top of my head know the answer.

I understand everyone's consent orders are different. Our orders state handover to be 9am Mondays or commencing school. Because initially we agreed to include that on the incase of public holidays and to avoid confusion. To my understanding after all this, I am to only raise it as an issue if he continually does so. My only worry is that I have let things go in the past - then later on have brought things up if they'd become an issue - only to have him say "Well I've done it in the past, why can't I now?" I guess only time will tell and I have to be hopeful they don't see it as an exemption.