VIC False Sexual Assault Allegations on a Father - What to Do?

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NEEMA

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Okay, first, this is absolute nonsense:

For her she knows once children again spend time with father she will loose control over, given my eldest who is 5 years old used to love me more than her mother. She never accepts children loving more than her. She used to be upset so many times because our eldest son preferred me more than her. She is blinded by her hate. Its unbelievable.

What's unbelievable is a parent thinking a five-year-old is capable of deciding that they love one parent more than the other. What's unbelievable is treating parenting like a competition for your child's love.

Mate, kids suffer badly when they are asked by their parents to choose their loyalties. Your kids love both of you. Period.

Now, is there an application for parenting orders still on foot? What had the Court said about CPS' intervention?

Hi, I agree with you, children should never be put in a position to make a choice as they need both the parents.

Yes, we are in the Family Court for the parenting order. CPS just served me with a Protection Application, for the weekend they made a Accomodation Order. I need to attend Children's court on Monday morning, where CPA will ask court to put children in to foster care.

We will know the Children's court position, as we are already in Family court. In Family Court we will have interim order hearing in 2 months as per the schedule


Regards,

N
 

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Get legal help asap. See legal aid or a community legal centre for advice. Once kids are in the 'system' it can be hard getting them out again. You need legal help.
 

NEEMA

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Get legal help asap. See legal aid or a community legal centre for advice. Once kids are in the 'system' it can be hard getting them out again. You need legal help.
Agree with you, I’m speaking to lawyer and also asking ICL to join on Monday in the court. My children are kept away from me with IVO and criminal matters. CPA says our child told that he do not want to stay with me.

He is for sure coached, During this year as a father I tried doing everything possible to see the children. I don’t know what else I can do to prove to the court that I’m a normal father who wants to look after the children’s best interest.
 

Unknown entity

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Nema, I went through a similar ordeal, it is very good that special branch of the police are investigating your case, believe me special branch (sexual assault) are very good at what they do and highly professional, Unlike Child Protection, special branch of the police are able to isolation the emotions involved and concentrate on facts and fact gathering free from objective and emotional behaviours.

if false accusations have been made against you, special branch of the police will identify this as being the case. As for child protection, the most unprofessional government agency I have ever uncluttered and many need further training beyond the scope provided at grass roots level.

If you are cleared by special branch of the police, have Child Protection provide you with a letter of advice of no maltreatment and/or likelyhood of no maltreatment as was in my case.

Police in blue uniform when involving allegations are hopeless and often tend to align with the accuser, but but but a detailed investigation by police investigatiors is a very good outcome as they are well trained, experienced and know how to work out truth from mistruths.

Just believe in the system, your half way there by having Child Protection isolated from the investigation and having the real professionals now involved.
 

NEEMA

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Nema, I went through a similar ordeal, it is very good that special branch of the police are investigating your case, believe me special branch (sexual assault) are very good at what they do and highly professional, Unlike Child Protection, special branch of the police are able to isolation the emotions involved and concentrate on facts and fact gathering free from objective and emotional behaviours.

if false accusations have been made against you, special branch of the police will identify this as being the case. As for child protection, the most unprofessional government agency I have ever uncluttered and many need further training beyond the scope provided at grass roots level.

If you are cleared by special branch of the police, have Child Protection provide you with a letter of advice of no maltreatment and/or likelyhood of no maltreatment as was in my case.

Police in blue uniform when involving allegations are hopeless and often tend to align with the accuser, but but but a detailed investigation by police investigatiors is a very good outcome as they are well trained, experienced and know how to work out truth from mistruths.

Just believe in the system, your half way there by having Child Protection isolated from the investigation and having the real professionals now involved.

Hi Mark,

I saw your message today while i was in the court. Points you raised came just in time. Timing was perfect, Thank you so much for your help. It was a good assistance for us. After court was with lawyer preparing for the next trail. Following are key points:

DHHS was only trying to push the report from Child Protection Society (CPS),
Our sons interaction with CPS Social worker, It seems our son said that father sexually assaulted, so she is the key witness,
Our son said that he do not want to see his father, thats the DHHS case, child is scared of father.

We asked regarding SOCIT investigation, we are not getting the straight answer from DHHS at all, but they told us their criteria is "Probability of this occurred" and Police special branch SOCIT criteria is different that is "beyond reasonable dough", they are still deflecting to give a straight answer to what exactly happened and where is the report. We did ask them to provide any SOCIT interview videos/Audio or any reports - Tomorrow we will formally ask in writing.

Following are key observations:

1) We had Psychiatrist assessment, Psychiatrist recommended my Ex wife to encouraged to see the father thats in one of there interview reports - However DHHS view is, still its up to us if we would like to take this recommendation or not. They only want to follow CPS a social worker organisation investigation report, who have vested interest in keeping the children in the web of system keeping away from one parent, not even a supervised access, but not a Psychiatrist (Doctor) who is Forensically expert with more than 20 years experience

By the way did anyone come across experience with Child Protection Society (CPS)? I did google them, but any person real experience dealing with them? How can I know what is there internal processes to asses a situation? who are these experts? what is there criteria to determine such complex cases and send recommendation to court, through DHHS? Any Forensic Psychiatrist involved in these assessment? would be good to know

2) I have a feeling that they are deliberately trying to avoid involving other experts who can shed some light on Child sexual abuse, who gives other view than DHHS trying to portray, thereby exposing the gaps and lack of expertise in there processes,

  • Thank you mark again we will follow any letter to DHHS from SOCIT of advice of no maltreatment and/or likelihood of no maltreatment, if they have received any. My in First Child Protection (DHHS) case SOCIT was involved, they after some time case was closed by Child Protection, so what has happened with SOCIT investigation we are not getting any clarity from the department. We are also planing to contact the special branch and get as much info as possible directly.

DHHS plan is to give children back to mother in a week or two, who just tried to commit suicide, they have no problems with that. I need to avoid my children going back to mother because they are exposed to Risk and constant denigration of other parent, which is a child abuse. Mental Health is not a flu which can be fixed in a week or two.

Now I'm started to question so called Mental health Experts, this DHHS is picking and choosing now. I might need to get my own privately funded Psychiatrist involved, to verify every thing comes out these reports and asses the child and the mother will all the matters.

Once again mark thank you so much. Please let me know what else possibly we can do. I'm having a lawyer, however inputs from a person who has gone through is valuable inputs what possibly we can do.

Thank you so much.

Neem
 
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Unknown entity

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Violence behind closed door is notoriously difficult to prove, child alienation for example is emotional and phycological abuse, it programs a child’s thoughts to hate or remove any love and respect child or children had fo4 other parent.

But your case does sound a lot more complicated than mine. Don’t forget, any interview had with any phycologist or other health care professional will be requested by opposing lawyer leading into trial by way of subpoena and/or through court discovery process. It is unfortunate that Lawyers who seek out these reports will twist and turn information for the benifit of their client. Thus, less is sometimes more but the whole truth and nothing but the truth is the best strategy at all times.

Also remember, it is the children that is the most important in all of this ordeal, never never never, speak about court progress to children and never try to program a child’s mind as a tick for tack retaliation strategy against other party. Let what is good in the human soul be prioritised at all times, meaning just do what is right and that’s tell the truth and believe in the court and those professions (police) to do their job, the truth will unfold believe me.

PS do not let the court case, investigation(s) and social work requirements take over your life, to stay calm, sane and as hard as it is, try to keep life as normal as possible and keep loving on your children at all times.
 

NEEMA

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Violence behind closed door is notoriously difficult to prove, child alienation for example is emotional and phycological abuse, it programs a child’s thoughts to hate or remove any love and respect child or children had fo4 other parent.

But your case does sound a lot more complicated than mine. Don’t forget, any interview had with any phycologist or other health care professional will be requested by opposing lawyer leading into trial by way of subpoena and/or through court discovery process. It is unfortunate that Lawyers who seek out these reports will twist and turn information for the benifit of their client. Thus, less is sometimes more but the whole truth and nothing but the truth is the best strategy at all times.

Also remember, it is the children that is the most important in all of this ordeal, never never never, speak about court progress to children and never try to program a child’s mind as a tick for tack retaliation strategy against other party. Let what is good in the human soul be prioritised at all times, meaning just do what is right and that’s tell the truth and believe in the court and those professions (police) to do their job, the truth will unfold believe me.

PS do not let the court case, investigation(s) and social work requirements take over your life, to stay calm, sane and as hard as it is, try to keep life as normal as possible and keep loving on your children at all times.

Hi Mark, we spoke to SOCIT - they confirmed there was an investigation and closed. I was never been interviewed. Details I need to subpoena. IVO and Criminal charges all clear. Now DHS is coming back with all the allegations which I have been successfully able to defend my self. Now they are saying there criteria is different to courts.

My child has been turned against me. Now they are saying our son doesn't want to see me. Therefore they can't allow access to see our children. It seems he just keep repeating the false allegations to physical abuse to his mother, which never occurred, DHS doesn't even want me to see my children in supervised access.

I have been struggling to see our children from more than one year, when I come this far, I have been pushed back to beginning by DHS. I can't believe this is happening in Australia. Looking like going towards another contest in Children's court. I see DHS is very influential in this court. Judges did not accept any document without DHS lawyer agreeing to it.

Now they want to push a Social worker organisation report, that is Child Protection Society which report is against me. They do not want to Produce Socit report. No independent Psychologist or Forensic Psychologist report or any thing. Just what my son says thats there report.

I'm currently in Children's court with DHS and Family court with my ex and DHS is not involved. I cannot take this harassment any more. Our children are being stolen by the state operates, I'm getting dragged from one court to another, with the hope to get justice, when the justice is served i'm dragged in to this allegations again and this time rules are changed.

Our children are the stolen generation, where our children are stolen by state operates. Our children are slowly and steadily stripped of our culture family and friends. History is repeating itself. All poor people and culturally minorities I seen in DHS office. Shame on them. I'm more mentally prepared to expose this corrupt organisation who hides behind our kids. No matter what happens I would keep loving our children, I have there memories, as a father. I will fight for their right until the end.

I'm totally drained emotionally, psychologically and financially. My children are my strength to drive me to move forward.
 

Robjta

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Violence behind closed door is notoriously difficult to prove, child alienation for example is emotional and phycological abuse, it programs a child’s thoughts to hate or remove any love and respect child or children had fo4 other parent.

But your case does sound a lot more complicated than mine. Don’t forget, any interview had with any phycologist or other health care professional will be requested by opposing lawyer leading into trial by way of subpoena and/or through court discovery process. It is unfortunate that Lawyers who seek out these reports will twist and turn information for the benifit of their client. Thus, less is sometimes more but the whole truth and nothing but the truth is the best strategy at all times.

Also remember, it is the children that is the most important in all of this ordeal, never never never, speak about court progress to children and never try to program a child’s mind as a tick for tack retaliation strategy against other party. Let what is good in the human soul be prioritised at all times, meaning just do what is right and that’s tell the truth and believe in the court and those professions (police) to do their job, the truth will unfold believe me.

PS do not let the court case, investigation(s) and social work requirements take over your life, to stay calm, sane and as hard as it is, try to keep life as normal as possible and keep loving on your children at all times.
Hey Neema you have basically described what happened to me a year and half ago, I thought this was rare clearly not I am in Victoria and would love to chat with someone just I guess to have another person to talk to about this if you could message me would be good to chat.
 

NEEMA

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Hey Neema you have basically described what happened to me a year and half ago, I thought this was rare clearly not I am in Victoria and would love to chat with someone just I guess to have another person to talk to about this if you could message me would be good to chat.

Hi Robjta sorry to hear. I'm still in the courts, moving at a snail pace, DHS is putting me through trails and tribulations so that I will walk away from my children. I'm not going to until my last breath. sure message me happy to chat.
 

Justice1

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Hi neema I've gone through all this and alot more over the last 3 years I would love to chat to you