VIC Arrangement in application in a case

[Loveson]

Do you mind me asking, how old is your child??
What was your relationship with your child before you went to court??
What happened for your wife to take you to family court??
I know crap can occur in anyone’s life, no-ones “”perfect”” whatever “”perfect”” is??
For me we are programmed to be socially accepted, which is a piece of ? to me, I do not care what society thinks, if I did I’d be a friggen mess.
For me it’s all about ‘TREATING PEOPLE HOW YOU WANT TO BE TREATED’.
I do not ever judge anyone and I believe to give people a chance, if anyone was to ? in my face after given a second chance I’ll turn my back on that person.
I have given chance after chance etc etc and wind up being totally used and abused.
What I’m saying to you whilst beating around the bush, please don’t feel ashamed of anything you want to say.
I’m not above you, your not above me, no-one should look down upon anyone, it is what it is, that’s just life.
For example, someone wearing a suit or daggy clothes, driving a Porsche or a beaten up car gives others a totally opposite perception of the two. This is so shallow of someone to assume the one in the suit or driving a Porsche is better than the one in a beaten up car etc, this is what society has programmed into SOME people.
I’m letting you know where I sit with people, as I said, don’t ever feel ashamed if you want to ask me anything and don’t ever feel you are below anyone, people do take advantage when they see weakness in anyone. Cheers Loveson

I had very close relationship with my son, he is 4. It was me who filed for initial application to see my son after she gave me IVO stopping me to see him.

 

[sammy01]

I'd be asking for overnights.
Go hard, but ask the solicitor. Go hard - If however, solicitor tells you that you're going too hard, consider the advice.

Solicitors are funny. Unless you ask the right questions they wont give you the answers. You gotta ask the questions

At 4 yrs of age Friday arvo - to Sunday morning isn't a big stretch. Maybe not straight away. But go for 1 night a week for 5 weeks and two nights a week after that. Hit the solicitor up with that and see what they think

 

[Loveson]

I'd be asking for overnights.
Go hard, but ask the solicitor. Go hard - If however, solicitor tells you that you're going too hard, consider the advice.

Solicitors are funny. Unless you ask the right questions they wont give you the answers. You gotta ask the questions

At 4 yrs of age Friday arvo - to Sunday morning isn't a big stretch. Maybe not straight away. But go for 1 night a week for 5 weeks and two nights a week after that. Hit the solicitor up with that and see what they think

Thank you Sammy. I got the feeling solicitor does not want that quick in the process, sometime being very conservative. And let the process drag along with more hearings, making only a little bit change in each. My thought is that I can put it out there with my request, and the judge can make order accordingly with his own judgement. At least nothing to lose, it is not easy to have the effort to change the order.

 

[Alert]

I had very close relationship with my son, he is 4. It was me who filed for initial application to see my son after she gave me IVO stopping me to see him.

I do agree with you Loveson when you mention a lot of posts are biased, that wouldn’t give you to much confidence??

Woman can be extremely nefarious.

I’m happy to hear your child does not have to be exposed to alcohol and drugs.

So I’m guessing the Intervention Order said you were violent, and this is why you were ordered supervised visits? That is the only thing your x can TRY to use against you, whatever don’t breach.

Anyway, the things that people succumb to when trying to keep the parent and child apart is nothing new, Family Courts would see this everyday.

The only thing I can suggest now, stick to all orders no matter what, this way your x has no ammo to use against you.
If you hear anything that gets you pi$$ed, remember it’s all HEARSAY, don’t get revved up and retaliate, woman can be extremely cunning, ‘coming from a woman’.

You will be fine be Loveson, truly you will.

 

[Loveson]

I do agree with you Loveson when you mention a lot of posts are biased, that wouldn’t give you to much confidence??

Woman can be extremely nefarious.

I’m happy to hear your child does not have to be exposed to alcohol and drugs.

So I’m guessing the Intervention Order said you were violent, and this is why you were ordered supervised visits? That is the only thing your x can TRY to use against you, whatever don’t breach.

Anyway, the things that people succumb to when trying to keep the parent and child apart is nothing new, Family Courts would see this everyday.

The only thing I can suggest now, stick to all orders no matter what, this way your x has no ammo to use against you.
If you hear anything that gets you pi$$ed, remember it’s all HEARSAY, don’t get revved up and retaliate, woman can be extremely cunning, ‘coming from a woman’.

You will be fine be Loveson, truly you will.

That is some very good encouragement and thank you for dropping those kind words. I will keep up with the order and fight for my son just for his best interest, he really deserves it, an innocent beautiful child.

 

[Alert]

Loveson your thoughts you posted Sammy01 are exactly my thoughts.
I agree 100% with what you have said.

I know there are certain laws to follow, in saying this, I definitely know all situations are different and not as clean cut as others.

Your relationship with your son is good right?

So the most important issue is for you and your son continue your relationship, ask for what you wish. Go for it Loveson.

I believe your solicitor will say this and that, all I can say is ‘don’t second guess yourself’. just because they are a solicitor doesn’t mean you need to agree, you have a solicitor your paying to do what YOU ask.

I believe advice is good to get, but really Loveson who can tell you what to ask for, ‘absolutely no-one’, this is your son, you know more about your relationship than anyone will ever know.

I just want to say this again, ‘don’t second guess yourself’ and don’t be pursued.

My comment is about what you said in post below:
‘My thought is that I can put it out there with my request, and the judge can make order accordingly with his own judgement. At least nothing to lose, it is not easy to have the effort to change the order.’

 

[Alert]

That is some very good encouragement and thank you for dropping those kind words. I will keep up with the order and fight for my son just for his best interest, he really deserves it, an innocent beautiful child.

You are welcome Loveson. Encouragement helped me, without this I would have been a mess. I can see you adore your son. I would sometimes say, ‘ every man can have children, but not every man can be a father’.

 

[Loveson]

Loveson your thoughts you posted Sammy01 are exactly my thoughts.
I agree 100% with what you have said.

I know there are certain laws to follow, in saying this, I definitely know all situations are different and not as clean cut as others.

Your relationship with your son is good right?

So the most important issue is for you and your son continue your relationship, ask for what you wish. Go for it Loveson.

I believe your solicitor will say this and that, all I can say is ‘don’t second guess yourself’. just because they are a solicitor doesn’t mean you need to agree, you have a solicitor your paying to do what YOU ask.

I believe advice is good to get, but really Loveson who can tell you what to ask for, ‘absolutely no-one’, this is your son, you know more about your relationship than anyone will ever know.

I just want to say this again, ‘don’t second guess yourself’ and don’t be pursued.

My comment is about what you said in post below:
‘My thought is that I can put it out there with my request, and the judge can make order accordingly with his own judgement. At least nothing to lose, it is not easy to have the effort to change the order.’

I will bear that in mind.

 

[Loveson]

Thank you again!

 

[Alert]

Thank you again!

Loveson I don’t mind mind at all.
I’m not only helping you. You have replied with certain comments which have also helped me.
Please Loveson, all I ask, is you ask for what you wish, honestly there is nothing you want that is unreasonable and unrealistic.