NT Do air hostesses have any arrest powers?

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Ontarian812

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No on both counts.... Don't know how it works in Canada, but here in OZ citizens don't get to 'press' charges anyway.. Nor were you falsely arrested going on your account.

Sounds a lot like you & your buddies were attempting a bit of civil unrest more then anything ..... So you can go to court & argue that the COVID requirements don't apply to you because of your exemptions (won't work unless there is special mention in the policy/act that mentions that as an acceptable exemption)... Or you could argue that whatever civil right you think you have should somehow be given much more weight than the policy/legislated health emergency act that the poor air crew & police officer were trying to enforce for the good of all & to satisfy the mandatory requirements of their COVID safe measures so that they can actually operate their business (good luck with that)

I kinda hope the judge reads you the riot act for wasting decent folks time & tax payers money.... Maybe a hire car next time. Then you can all sing your hearts out mask free.

BTW, if you don't like wearing a mask when required, you would really hate a ventilator.
We were not wasting anyone's time and we did not look to provoke anyone. We disagree with covid conformity, but we had our exemption papers ready and were not at all confrontational or impulsive. Here in Canada the emergency act was enacted in absence of the provincial legislator thus making it illigetitamate.
Also, we were tied up for so long(2 hours) that they put tape on our wrists to avoid marks m/bruising and then promptly re tied us(5 zip ties for each of us on the wrists and forearms and a makeshift hobble for our ankles). So clearly we have an unwarranted and resist with needless force. Would you disagree?
 

Atticus

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We were not wasting anyone's time
Clearly you did
we did not look to provoke anyone
On balance of probability, I reckon you were
We disagree with covid conformity
There's your problem.... You entered a space that required you to conform... Should have hired a car & drove
Here in Canada the emergency act was enacted in absence of the provincial legislator thus making it illigetitamate.
Argue that rubbish with a judge
So clearly we have an unwarranted and resist with needless force. Would you disagree?
Wasn't there so Can't comment.... Argue your case with a judge.
 

Ontarian812

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Clearly you did

On balance of probability, I reckon you were

There's your problem.... You entered a space that required you to conform... Should have hired a car & drove

Argue that rubbish with a judge

Wasn't there so Can't comment.... Argue your case with a judge.
I you what, I will concede all of the above BUT will you atleast concede any wrongdoing on the part of the officer and air hostess? Such as the amount of restraints used?
 

Atticus

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The only opinion that is going to matter to you is that of the judge ....

Look, lets be honest.. There are alternative ways to travel.... you tried to be a bit smart ass & push the limits with the whole 'civil rights' thing... You found that limit, now you want to test the patience of a judge & explore those limits... Lucky for you, you live in a free country so you are at liberty to do that if you wish. I don't recommend it.. If it doesn't go well, just remember, it was your choice.. You may be a minor hero in the eyes of a few folk in your social networks for 5 minutes, but I suspect the real world is going to clash with your self image, & reality always wins.
 

Ontarian812

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The only opinion that is going to matter to you is that of the judge ....

Look, lets be honest.. There are alternative ways to travel.... you tried to be a bit smart ass & push the limits with the whole 'civil rights' thing... You found that limit, now you want to test the patience of a judge & explore those limits... Lucky for you, you live in a free country so you are at liberty to do that if you wish. I don't recommend it.. If it doesn't go well, just remember, it was your choice.. You may be a minor hero in the eyes of a few folk in your social networks for 5 minutes, but I suspect the real world is going to clash with your self image, & reality always wins.
I do agree that reality wins, but you evaded the question. Did the officer and air hostess use excessive amounts of restraints?
 

Atticus

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I suspect a judge may be of the opinion that if they restrained you, it was sufficient
 

Ontarian812

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We will see if that is the case, but there was no need for a hobble restraint and five zip ties binding my wrists and forearms.
 

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Possibly needed to stop you removing your masks.

In any case I do not see unreasonable restraint, at least in Australia.

Best get your own legal advice in Canada.