QLD Son Received Speeding Fines - Dispute T.I.N. Under Traffic Law?

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Grant69

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My son was given a ticket for 115 km in a 100 zone. His vehicle speedo showed 100 to 101 and his GPS reading showed the same. He had two passengers in the vehicle at the time and they all looked at the readings. He did not know why he was pulled over at the time. The cop blamed the tyeares which were brand new straight out of the shop within hours of this T.I.N, then he said the speedo must be incorrect and to top it off he stated that a GPS is not accurate.

Sorry, but if a GPS can direct you to a reef some hundreds of miles of shore and to the same mark each time, I would say that they are extremely accurate. How would one take action to dispute this T.I.N. under Traffic Law? He is on his red "Ps", 3 points and $235 fine. I believe this now doubles as it is school holidays, would this be correct? All three have said there was no speeding involved.
 

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Tim W

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Court elect it, and get a traffic lawyer.
 

Grant69

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What measuring device was used by the police?

And what were the details around the taking of the speed measurement ( straight rd, country, city, how far away were coppers, single lane, heavy traffic, day/night etc)

See this calculator for tyeares/speed differences: Speedo error calculator – speedometer error as a result of tyeare size change – Speedometer calibration

Interesting read here: Herald Sun
This was a mobile highway patrol car, came round a corner but both on a straight at the time. The car had just overtaken my son in light traffic. Have done all the calculations relating to diff, gearbox and tyeare size and revs all work out to within 100 revs of being correct. I have taken and tested this vehicle myself and is correct. GPS reading is within 1 km of the speedo reading. Have checked with various speed/rev (80 to 100)readings and all are within 1 to 2 kms with calculations.
 

Grant69

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Update: Have written a letter stating he was not speeding to the cop involved and his O.I.C. received the letter back; the ticket has been frozen, pending further enquiries and that I should not take further action in relation to this matter. That was a month ago. Still have not had any further from the O.I.C.
 

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Stick to your guns and gather all the evidence you can. If they've frozen it, it may mean they are having second thoughts.
 

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I don't know what "frozen" means according to traffic law in Queensland.
But cops love a soft target and a petty trick.

No matter what the police have said, have the money set aside,
and be prepared to pay it immediately if/when you get a reminder notice.
 

Grant69

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I don't know what "frozen" means according to traffic law in Queensland.
But cops love a soft target and a petty trick.

No matter what the police have said, have the money set aside,
and be prepared to pay it immediately if/when you get a reminder notice.

Have received a response today, from Snr Sarg of the Road Policing Unit. They have completed the investigation, but the decision has been left with the original officer, and he is not willing to waive the penalty. Have just been informed there have been 3 complaints in regard to this same officer.

He is targeting "L" and "P" platers and they have all been pinged between 100 and 115 speed infringements. One was my son's girlfriend who, at the time, had her mother in the car. He let her go at 110. She was not speeding.

My son was with his girlfriend and his little sister when he was booked. She came straight around to tell me what happened to her. This is just a straight out lying scum cop.