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Marty McSly

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For the last 3½ years my wife has been down all sorts of antivax, Sov Cit, Qanon conspiracy theory rabbit holes. I should have walked away the night she told me that she would divorce me if I got the Covid jab. But anyway...

The nonsense has got worse over the last few months, and is accelerating since the Orange Ozymandias won re-election.

BTW "nonsense" includes hiding/destroying/ignoring official looking mail, not paying bills, etc.

So if I walk and commence divorce proceedings, she will be a non-participant in the process. No response to correspondence, including property settlement proposals. No attendance at mediation. No engaging a solicitor to represent her. If she attends court she'll come with some cookers who'll tell the judge that his law doesn't apply "because the government of Australia is a corporation and its laws are illegal under our common law" (whatever the f**k that is).

So how do I go about negotiating a property settlement, getting disclosure etc?

Here's a nice little sticking point, at one stage her cooker friends convinced her that all of the world's companies were bankrupt and the mainstream media were part of a giant conspiracy to hide this "fact" by continuing to publish "fictional" share prices. But luckily there was this crypto mob who were issuing cryptocurrencies that were somehow going to replace shares. And if you got in early and quickly, massive returns were to be had. Nek minnit, she's dumped $150K into this s**t and is convinced that in just a few short weeks it'd be worth $3 billion. Billion, FFS. That was about 2 years ago. Since then she's been cagey every time I've asked how the cryptos are going, what they're worth now, etc. AIUI full disclosure requires her to report this, but I suspect the chance of that happening without some stiff legal compulsion is pretty slim.

So, where do I go from here? I'm fed up with the nonsense and ready to walk away.
 

Marty McSly

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Luckily the children are adults. 28 and 24. Not living at home, pretty much estranged from their mother because they can't stomach her beliefs.

And investment assets are sufficient enough that I won't make any claim to the family home. If there were 2 willing participants, it would be a relatively easy process.
 

Tim W

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Frustrating and time wastey and expensive as it is,
the court (which is where, inevitably, you will end up)
will expect you to have made make genuine attempts to Do The Things.

Take heart in that Respondents
who do not take part/ ignore documents/ deny jurisdiction, etc,
or, are just plain nuts,
are not a new thing in this space.
 

lostinspace

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Like above, you will end up in the courts.

If I were you, go an pay an experienced family lawyer and start all the processes now, you need to document when you separated too, she can think whatever she wants, and it may even work out better if she refuses to participate as the court will see where the problem is.

It will take you time, it is a process, best advice I ever got was to get things going ASAP, many people waste years before they start a process that takes years, you could potentially lose 5 years of your life or more by delaying or putting things off.
 

lostinspace

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Also, document and write as much as you can, other party seems like they will not likely co operate, the court will ask you for your estimates. I would encourage you to have your story straight and be the truth, often other side will make wild claims etc, do not get put off course, just methodically do what the court asks.

Document all the important things, dates you separated, how you separated, the money sunk into things, amounts, any documents that back up your version etc etc, the divorce is the easy part, the property settlement is totally separate.
 

Marty McSly

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you could potentially lose 5 years of your life
Ick.

There's the quandary for me. She has a number of ailments and family medical history which taken together make her a time bomb for a sudden fatal heart attack. She won't seek treatment because she has "raised her vibrational frequency" to such a level that she "is now immortal". She won't admit that she is unwell and in any event believes that Elon Musk is secretly developing "Med Beds" that will render doctors and hospitals obsolete. So even if she did admit to her ailments' she won't seek medical treatment.

I could get a year or 2 into a 5 year process only to have her suddenly drop dead.

She may not co-operate with the process but she'll sure as s**t write me out of her will!
 

lostinspace

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By delaying, say because you think she is too ill, will that fix anything ? It is a process, you follow the bouncing ball, let her do as she wishes.

re will etc, it is one of the first things to look at.....for you.
 

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Ick.

There's the quandary for me. She has a number of ailments and family medical history which taken together make her a time bomb for a sudden fatal heart attack. She won't seek treatment because she has "raised her vibrational frequency" to such a level that she "is now immortal". She won't admit that she is unwell and in any event believes that Elon Musk is secretly developing "Med Beds" that will render doctors and hospitals obsolete. So even if she did admit to her ailments' she won't seek medical treatment.

I could get a year or 2 into a 5 year process only to have her suddenly drop dead.

She may not co-operate with the process but she'll sure as s**t write me out of her will!
Doesn't matter. SovCit-ery has absolutely no legal basis at all.
 

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Do not laugh, you will prob be the one asked for no win now fee legal help
Nah. I don't do Family Law.

(as to OP's ex.... ever notice how people who think themselves outside the system
run back into it when they wants its help?)